From huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu Sat Dec 11 22:38:46 1993 From: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff) Newsgroups: sci.image.processing,comp.sys.mac.scitech,sci.answers,news.answers Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Information Sources (FAQ) Supersedes: Followup-To: sci.image.processing Date: 11 Dec 1993 00:00:33 -0500 Organization: NYU Chemistry Dept. Distribution: world Reply-To: huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff) NNTP-Posting-Host: pad-thai.aktis.com Summary: Macintosh Image Processing Information available via gopher, FTP, Usenet, e-mail, telephone, and snail mail. X-Last-Updated: 1993/10/26 Archive-name: image-processing/Macintosh Sci-image-processing-archive-name: MacImageProc Comp-sys-mac-scitech-archive-name: MacImageProc Last-modified: 26 Oct 1993 Version: 1.1.2 How to find information about Macintosh Image Processing. Posted every two weeks to sci.image.processing, comp.sys.mac.scitech, sci.answers, news.answers. Topics: sci.image.processing archive has moved to port 71 Macintosh Image Processing Gopher Sites Macintosh Image Processing FTP Sites Macintosh Image Processing Packages Other useful FAQ files About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ Latest Software Versions. Where to find Mac TurboGopher. How to set up Mac TurboGopher. How to search the sci.image.processing archive. How to search for followups to an article. Where to find NIH Image NIH Image Mailing list This FAQ is in RFC 1153 format, except that the subject line does not contain the word "Digest" and the "Date" and "From" headers are omitted. (Is this better or worse than last time?) Some changes are in progress. The next release will be more complete. Some sections are deleted. Old versions of this posting remain available on the s.i.p archive. (25 copies per year :-)... This work is hereby placed in the public domain. (This notice is required to avoid copyright under the Berne convention.) You can do anything you want with it. But please don't change it without putting your name on it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: sci.image.processing archive has moved to port 71 Your bookmarks will access a directory page which says the archive has moved (but doesn't say where). You will have to make a new bookmark, starting with "File/Another Gopher...", fill in the server name and change the default port from 70 to 71. ------------------------------ Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Gopher Sites Note: Gopher sites are not necessarily also FTP sites. It is possible for Gopher site maintainers to put links to these sites into their gophers. sci.image.processing archive skyking.oce.orst.edu PORT 71 (NONSTANDARD) Information From the Costal Imaging Lab/ Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive/ WAIS Indes to Articles nih-image mailing list archive gopher.soils.umn.edu port 70 Computer Information/ General Information/ Search Nih-Image Mailing List Archives Computer Information/ General Information/ Selected Electronic Mailing List Archives/ Nih-image*/ comp.sys.mac.scitech archive [does anyone know?] ------------------------------ Subject: Macintosh Image Processing FTP Sites As usual, user "anonymous" (spelled exactly as shown). Specify your e-mail address as the password. For more information, see [pointer to FTP FAQ next time]. zippy.nimh.nih.gov /pub/nih-image rtfm.mit.edu /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/news/answers ruby.oce.orst.edu /pub/sci.image.processing boombox.micro.umn.edu /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher ftp.soils.umn.edu:pub/info/email-lists/Nih-image* [more FTP sites next time] ------------------------------ Subject: Macintosh Image Processing Packages The pbmplus image processing package has been ported to MPW, I have a copy if anyone wants it. You need MPW. Apparently there is a shell program that can run MPW tools without MPW, but I have no information about it. A new version called netpbm has been released recently, but not ported to MPW yet. This list is taken from the NIH-Image 1.52 manual. BRAIN (2-DG and receptor autoradiography) Image and Computer Vision Center, Drexel University Philadelphia, PA 215-895-1381 NCSA Image, PalEdit, Layout, and Gel Reader (all public domain) (Scientific visualization, palette editing, gels) NCSA, Champaign, IL 217-244-0072 Anonymous ftp: zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu DIP Station (Medical image analysis, 16-bits, surface rendering) Hayden Image Processing Group Boulder, Colorado 303-449-3433 (whc@po.cwru.edu) Photoshop (Color image processing, 24-bit to 8-bit color conversion, file conversion, plug-in modules) Adobe Systems Mountain View, CA 415-961-4400 Enhance Micro Frontier Des Moines, Iowa 515-270-8109 PixelTools, TCL-Image (Video rate processing, 1340x1035 frame grabber) Perceptics Corporation Knoxville, TN 615-966-9200 The Explorer (Medical image analysis) UCLA Los Angeles, CA 213-825-0757 Transform, View, Format, and Dicer (Scientific visualization, presentation graphics, volume visualization) Spyglass, Inc. Savoy, IL 217-355-6000 Image Analyst Automatix Billerica, MA 508-667-7900 VoxBlast (Volume rendering, video microscopy) VayTek,Inc Fairfield, Iowa 515-472-2227 IPLab (FFT, >8-bits precision, 24-bit color, scripting) Signal Analytics Vienna, VA 703-281-3277 VoxelView/Mac (Volume rendering) Vital Images Fairfield, Iowa 515-472-7726 MedVision (Medical image analysis, multi-modality studies, 16-bits, extendible) Evergreen Technologies, Inc. Gaithersburg, MD 301-948-1800 (evergreen@applelink.apple.com) Ultimage GTFS Inc. Santa Rosa, CA 707-579-1733 ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP Other useful FAQ files [more detail next time] The Archive-name header specifies the file name on the rtfm.mit.edu archive in the /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/news/answers subdirectory. sci.image.processing From: stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu (John Stanley) Subject: Sci.image.processing FAQ (Huzzah!) Archive-name: (Search s.i.p archive for "FAQ") I haven't looked at these recently, but check these newsgroups or look on the rtfm archive for FAQ files. Look in the directories for the group, e.g. /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/comp/graphics. comp.graphics comp.soft-sys.khoros alt.pixutils [more next time] ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP About the Macintosh Image Processing FAQ This is the first cut at a new streamlined FAQ that covers more than one site. More improvements will follow. Keep those suggestions coming in :-). Many thanks to John Stanley for setting up an archive of sci.image.processing. Nearly all posts to s.i.p are archived there and the full text can be searched rapidly using any Gopher client or WWW client. This is the preferred method, and the ONLY method described here. It should be possible to make a mirror or two of the archive on other continents (hint). This ought to give faster response for people there, although Gopher gives no feedback about where it is going for any particular piece of information To find out more about Gopher, ask in comp.infosystems.gopher or read "Gopher (comp.infosystems.gopher) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)" which is posted every two weeks to comp.infosystems.gopher, or is available via anonymous FTP: rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq Those without FTP access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources" in the body to find out how to do FTP by e-mail. Or just "send usenet/news.answers/gopher-faq". To obtain the latest copy of THIS document, "send usenet/news.answers/image-processing/Macintosh". If you see this text as a separte message followed by several others from me, you must be running a newsreader like NN which has an option to split digests and present them as if each article were posted separately. Mail suggestions or comments to huff@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu (Edward J. Huff). Preferably, mail a modified copy of the whole file to reflect the changes you would like to see. I reserve the right to ignore impolite requests. I will not be maintaining any FAQ files for PC or Unix. Anyone else who would like to do so is encouraged. It isn't (that) hard. Also, I plan to include a list of useful search terms, i.e. specific terms that successfully bring up the desired answers, rather than quoting the answers themselves. This should also make obsolete copies of this FAQ a little less obsolete. Please send me successful search terms, especially if they are not entirely obvious. I am also looking at a Mac WWW client, and someday will get information added. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP Latest Software versions. As of 19 Oct 93: Mac TurboGopher latest release is curr.version.is.1.0.7f, beta test is TurboGopher1.0.8b1.hqx. The latest NIH Image is 1.52. The non-FPU version is for Macs which do not have a Floating Point Unit. Beta test is nih-image153b13.hqx. The latest IP Lab demo is 2.3.0h, on zippy. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP Where to find Mac TurboGopher Short answer: boombox.micro.umn.edu (134.84.132.2) in directory /pub/gopher/Macintosh-TurboGopher file TurboGopher.hqx Or if you already have an older copy, use the TurboGopher Distribution bookmark. As usual with Gopher, there is no indication about where on the internet it is going for the information, and it does not try to tell you. This could be fixed: the "TurboGopher Distribution" window ought to contain pointers to gopher servers which contain nearby copies... An "archie" search for Macintosh-TurboGopher found 25 copies at anonymous FTP sites around the world. Telnet to an archie server: archie.ans.net 147.225.1.10 archie.unl.edu 129.93.1.14 archie.sura.net 128.167.254.179 archie.rutgers.edu 128.6.18.15 archie.au 139.130.4.6 archie.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 archie.ncu.edu.tw 140.115.19.24 archie.doc.ic.ac.uk 146.169.11.3 archie.sogang.ac.kr 163.239.1.11 Login as user "archie", and enter "prog Macintosh-TurboGopher". Conserve bandwidth, FTP from a nearby site. As usual, archie is not a perfect solution, since archivists have a tendency to change file names and since the file you are looking for changes with the version. This search string has been tested on archie.ans.net and it found 25 sites. Other reasonable searchs are TurboGopher.sit.hqx and TurboGopher.hqx, but many of the sites use file names like turbogopher1.05.sit.hqx. Is there a better way? If you cannot telnet or if you use archie a lot, client software is available on ftp.ans.net:/pub/archie/clients; documentation in /pub/archie/doc. Maybe it works better than the telnet version? ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP How to set up Mac TurboGopher (1) Unbinhex and unstuff it. Fetch will unbinhex it automatically while obtaining it from the FTP site. You need one of the Stuffit programs to uncompress TurboGopher. Look in comp.sys.mac.* for more information. Once you have TurboGopher, you can use it to get the lastest version. (2) Of course, you need MacTCP properly installed in your system folder, and a TCP connection to the Internet. Ask you local network manager for help. (3) Double click on TurboGopher. Choose "File/Another Gopher" and type skyking.oce.orst.edu into the dialog box, and change the default port >from 70 to 71. A window titled "skyking.oce.orst.edu" will appear. Double click on "Information From the Costal Imaging Lab" and another window will open. There you will find "Sci.image.processing Newsgroup Archive". Select the line and choose "Gopher/Set Bookmark" to create a bookmark to the archive. Then, you can quit from TurboGopher, restart it, and the archive will appear as an item in your "Bookmarks" window. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP How to search the sci.image.processing archive using TurboGopher The first item in the archive window is "WAIS Indes to Articles". Further down is a folder "Raw Articles." Ignore the folder and use the index. Double click on the question mark icon, and a dialog box appears: "Find documents containing these words:". Enter FAQ and a window titled FAQ will appear. There you can see the complete history of the discussions on when and if a FAQ posting should appear in sci.image.processing, and also any other article which happens to contain the word "FAQ". I suppose that every time this FAQ gets reposted, it is going to be reentered in the archive. Maybe there is a way to prevent that. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP How to search for followups to an article You can copy the "article-ID" header string and paste it into the search box. This frequently produces more articles than desired, since each substring delimited by periods etc. is treated as a separate word. One useful solution to this would be for the original poster to put some unique single word string in the subject line. Or someday, the index software could be modified to treat article-ID strings as single words. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP Where to find NIH Image NIH Image is a public domain image processing package for the Macintosh. The home site for NIH Image is zippy.nimh.nih.gov in directory /pub/nih-image. Copies exist in many places. Wayne has changed his file names to include nih-image rather than just image, so that archie should be able to find copies, provided that other archivists preserve the name. Another good location is sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6) /info-mac/grf/util and mirrors of that site. ------------------------------ Subject: MacIP NIH Image Mailing list Subscribing to the new NIH Image mailing list is good way to get in contact with other Image users and to get questions answered. It was set up by a group in the Soil Science Department at the University of Minnesota. To subscribe, send a message containing the line "subscribe nih-image " to listserv@soils.umn.edu. ("Your name" is your actual name, NOT your e-mail address. The e-mail address comes from the headers). ------------------------------ End of Macintosh Image Processing Information Sources (FAQ) ************************************